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Sourav posted an Question
August 25, 2020 • 07:25 am 30 points
  • IIT JAM
  • Chemistry (CY)

72 the heat capacity at constànt volume cy of c,n, and asci, in gaseous state are 78.982 jk- mol and 74.83 jk-l mol. (assume all degree of freedom contribute) w

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  • Suman Kumar Best Answer

    Now check for which equation Cv value is satisfying

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    first formula answer is 78, 2nd formula answer is 74

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    but i don't know how to use this eqn in qs

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    Total degree of freedom is 3N right Sourav

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    what is N?

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    N is total number of atom

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    Here we have 4 atom in both case right?

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    yes

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    So total degree of freedom is 12 right ?

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    remember 3N

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    yes

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    A molecule has translational , rotational & vibrational degree of freedom right ?

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    yes

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    So a linear molecule has 3N - 5 degree of freedom & a non - linear molecule has 3N-6 vibrational degree of freedom ?

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    why the minus 5 and 6

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    See for linear molecule has translational degree of freedom is 3 & rotational degree of freedom is 2 right

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    yes

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    and for non linear they has 3 and 3

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    Correct Sourav

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    but my qs is why we are removing translation and rotational dof from total dof

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    Because in question it is given that all degree of freedom is contributing

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    yes.. is 3n - 5 and 3n-6 vibrational dof?

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    Correct Sourav

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    Now you can solve for Cv

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    And get the answer

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    one more thing translation & rotation contribute R/2 & vibrational contribute R

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    That's all.

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    Is your problem solved? Or still any Doubt

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    we will find the vib dof and subtract is from 19 and 18.. then relate the dof to structure?

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    i got upto 3n - 6 and 3n-5 but then how to proceed im not getting

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    Cv = (vibration degree of freedom * R) + (5/2 * R) for linear

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    Cv = (vibration degree of freedom * R) + (6/2 * R) for non-linear

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    Cv match kar lo given & calculated se structure aa jayega

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    still doubts then ask?

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    sir iske previous qs mai humne vib dof nahi liya.. kyun?

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    See vibrational degree of freedom very very high temperature pe contribute karte. So either temperature mention kiya hua rahega ya to like this question as mentioned all degree of freedom is contributing

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    got it?

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    sir one more qs.. im reading material from edncl and solving qs from chem academy.. is it enough for Jam for i need to study chem academy material too

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    i want to score a seat in Iit

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    morning i will answer this 🙏😊

  • Suman Kumar

    Using this first calculate f

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    im getting f=19 for first one

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    for 2nd ?

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    for 2nd one 18

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    Sorry you can't apply this formula here

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    Because here it telling all degree of freedom is contributing. So first of all we have to subtract vibrational degree of freedom

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    Please wait I am solving

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    please mark this also Sourav 🙏

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