Simun Mishra posted an Question
July 25, 2020 β€’ 20:06 pm 30 points
  • IIT JAM
  • Chemistry (CY)

Can u pls explain me this 2 lines ..?

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  • Suman Kumar Best Answer

    Note the stereo of ch2 group

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    OH group show chelation effect with Zn Simun so it direct the incoming group. So -OH &. CH2 group has same stereo

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    In 2nd reaction CH3 show steric repulsion. So due to steric repulsion CH2 is in dash position i.e trans

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    chelation effect means ?

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    OH binds with Zn Simun. This is chelation effect.

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    So it helps in bringing the reactant closer. Chelation happen as OH has lone pair.

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    Yes Simun 😊

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    Don't mistake chelation as a bond. It is just a sort of interaction like you see in intermolecular hydrogen bonding.

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    yes sir tq sir

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    it is a steriospecific reaction na so why in CH3 case give opposite sterio according to reactent

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    As I have explained earlier also CH3 can't show such chelation so it shows repulsion to the incoming group.

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    Stereospecific means either Trans or cis whatever may be the product if cis then 100% cis & if trans then 100 %trans

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    seee

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    This is what I am saying

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    if you got cis then πŸ’― % cis

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    got it Simun

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    yes sir

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    Dinesh khalmaniya 1 best-answer

    check this

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    in this case stereochemistry of ether is same as in OH i.e., wedge. because simmon smith carbene attacks towards polar group because it forms H bonding with zn

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    I can't able to understand this sir

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    can u simply explain me about this lines pls ..

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    yes wait..

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    ok sir

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    but sir how epoxidation occurs here only cyclopropane formsna

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    yes sir ..it ok sir

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    check now

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    I got it sir tq sir πŸ˜ŠπŸ™πŸ™

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    got it now. if OH, OR groups are given then the stereochemistry of cyclopropane will be as such in the polar groups

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    if othere groups then reverse the stereo

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    πŸ‘πŸ˜ŠπŸ˜Š

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    but sir this reaction is steriospecific na so cis give cis ..and trans give trans products so same sterio na

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    also given like this sir

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    yes, but here stereochemistry not given in the reactant

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    it's according to OH group. here H is dash mean cyclopropyl will be on wedge

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    yes sir and it is steriospecific so it sterio is always same na

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    sterio of reactant and products

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    no Simun stereo depends on only group attached on allyllic position

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    ohhh so sir in this 2 case it give trans trans and cis Cis why

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    yes, in this case cis give cis. and trans give trans

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    why sir

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    here concerted mechanism takes place.

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    sir I m very much confused about this reaction πŸ˜”

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    some time its sterio will be difff some time same ...

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    why Simun. it's not complicated. just remember if stereochemistry is given in the reactant then it mantain in the product.

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    like the pic of Oh I have send na

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    yes, in last picture you sent

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    but sir the pic u send in which CH3 in dash and product in wedge

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    yes, but it is cyclic alkene. it is not cis or trans

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    ok sir

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    try some questions the ask if any problem 😊

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    and now this sir

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    this is just like as in OH

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    but sir why cyclopropanation canine takes place at other double bond

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    nucleophilc alkene prefer cyclopropane. here alkene attached with ERG is more nucleophilc than other so cyclopropanatin takes place on this alkene

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    sir cyclopropanation why not takes place in this double bond

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    can you share it in new query

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    ok sir

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