Shweta Thakur posted an Question
October 12, 2020 • 21:21 pm 30 points
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Plz explain 16 th and 17 th in 17 why first has more acidic character than second cooh cooh cooh (16) (17) ch, nh, ch-c-ch ch,cooh ch,oh

COOH COOH COOH (16) (17) CH, NH, CH-C-CH CH,COOH CH,OH

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    Dinesh khalmaniya 1 best-answer

    16) 1>2>3 as the ring size increases, strain decrease so -I effect of ring decrease and hence acidity decrease 17) 3>1>4>2 this order is based on pka values because these are different acids and we can't compair directly

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    16 main - I effect Hoga cooh ka

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    nhi, ring ka -I

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    pka value learn krna pdega

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    ring strain ki vjh se -I show kregi

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    Sweta kuch acids ki to pta honi chiye na

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    wait

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    mujhe ni pta sir

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    isko learn kr lo kam chal jayega

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    sir

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    cooh and coo - which will give - I, +I and why

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    in SB Ka reason to Hoga n sir Jo send kiya

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    yes

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    wait..

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    ok

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    it's very simple concept that -COOH have C=O bond so C gets +charge so it is EWG while in -COO- there is no C=O bond so C doesn't get + charge and it has more electrons so it is ERG

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    sir coo - main why r u saying than there is no c double bond o

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    sir

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    sorry by mistake. II me C pr - charge ayega so +I

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    samagh ni aa rha

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    check it again

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    dekho Ist me C pr + charge aa rha he so it is electron deficient and show -I

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    IInd me C pr -Charge aa rha he so it is electron rich and show +I

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    now got it?

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    ok sir thanku 😊

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    Sweta mene apke previous question ka reply bhi kiya tha jo glt ans tha

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    apne reply nhi kiya?

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    sir wait

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    yes

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    Maine question galat poochh liya tha to vah maine delete kar diya tha

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    nhi nhi abhi vhi he wait me vha message kr rha hu

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    Priyanshu kumar Best Answer

    16 Ring size directly proportional to +I effect and inversely to -I so 1>2>3

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    17 order 3>1>4>2

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    ye sabhi diff diff acid hai so pka value se inka compare karna padega

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    Acetic acid is most acidic here as acetate ion is more stabilised due to two equivalent resonating structures

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    propyne pka value is 25 while methyl ammonium ion pka value is 10.7...

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    wait sir

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    Nahi aaya samagh

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    kha nhi samjhi?

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    pka value

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    aise koi reason ni hai

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    aise bhi kar sakti but yha diff diff hai so pka value suitable hai

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    sir

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    sir ...iske according to nh3 Ka -i Jada cooh se

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    16 main coo - I effect Hoga n

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    no +i

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    ring se attached hai na

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    ring size badhega tab +I increase hoga then acidity decreases hoga

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    sir

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    yes kya hua?

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    cooh and cooh- which has - I and + i

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    Shweta jb deprotonation hoga to coo- banega then iski stability ko jo increase karega wo jyada acidic hoga...so -I effect increase krte hai ...and small ring me jyada -I hote hai...

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    This way we check acidity

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    small ring main - I kyun Jada hota

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    previously also i expained this more ring strain hote hai bond angle jyada hote hai then electronegativity increase hote hai so -I effect increase hote hai

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    yes sir

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    sir

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    sir

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    yes shweta

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