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Sourav posted an Question
August 30, 2020 • 00:07 am 30 points
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Why positive charge stable on small ring and negative charge stable on larger ring?

why positive charge stable on small ring and negative charge stable on larger ring?

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    Priyanshu kumar

    https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/tips/how-to-stabilize-negative-charge/ read this too

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    negative charge stabilisation

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    Priyanshu kumar Best Answer

    https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/03/07/7-factors-that-stabilize-positive-charge-in-organic-chemistry/ read this dear sourav

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    positive charge stabiisation

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    And please tell in what respect you are asking this...Means you stuck on any ques or something else??

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    yes sir this one.

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    okk wait sourav

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    sourav is it option A??

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    yes

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    dear sourav you know this ease of release H+ more more acidic

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    Smaller rings have more -I effect more EN character...so it will make more acidic

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    so 3rd is most acidic here...

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    Now come to I and II...as in both cyclohexane ring is present...but also In 1st Oxygen is there which is also electronegative...so overall we see here Acidity order 3>1>2

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    But in general when you talk...then positive charge is stablised by higher rings as lower rings have more -I character so it destabilises the positive charge

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    Read this two article which i send here...there are various factors which stabilises and destabilizes positive and negative charge

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    but sir then what about this. it says five membered ring cation receives more stability than 6 member ring.

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    but here by protonation we check na...and here we check for acidity that where H+ releases easily...so thats why we consider here na electronegativity factor....

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    just you think na....you know smaller membered rings have more -I effect...so how positive charge is stabilised in ring

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    and five membered heterocyclic ring is more stable it has more aromatic property than six membered heterocyclic ring because of the heteroatom.

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    In this there is always competency which is more stable 😊

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    and when we talking simply no heteroatom then 6 membered cyclo hexane is more stable than 5 membered...chair conformation

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    This you know what i 'm explaining...so in doing problems you have to differentiate these and write these things as a note...if you go by taking general concept only not with some exceptions then it creates problem sourav

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    ok only for heteroatomic ring 5 member more stable than 6.

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    sourav reply got deleted there

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    formation of Oh- to direct hi nikal jayenge...jb dono equation ko subtract karoge

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